In this episode, we discuss what we listen to while we run and debate music versus podcasts, including:

• If listening to murder podcasts while you run makes you a serial killer
• Why podcasts help Shannon get through hard sessions
• Whether or not we wear headphones while we're racing
• Hayden's pre-rugby music routine
• Podcast and playlist recommendations

But first, we CRAP on about:

• Hayden going to Canberra to referee rugby
• How his hamstring injury is going
• Shannon making the podium for the first time
• Whether or not she can still call herself casual
• Our favourite Olympic moments from the past week

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