Reigning champion of returning guests Jake Mason (@jj_mason) comes on to give us our most meta episode yet: podcasts!

Our five draws:

The McElroy family of podcasts

The Public Radio Alliance podcasts

Q&A Session

Our Favourites

Future of Podcasts

Our music:

Music: Arcade Montage by Lee Rosevere

From the Free Music Archive

CC BY 4.0

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