In this episode, Andrew and John are facing changes. . .with a new season coming soon. But first, John experiences a minor beer disaster. Then, Chris McGrath (Much the Same, Winning Streak) is back to talk about Hangnail, punk rock, his band Much the Same playing shows with Hangnail, and how he relates to the lyrics all these years later. Chris interview begins at 20:41. Finally, a track by track discussion of Hangnail's sophomore album "Facing Changes." Album discussion begins at 1:04:54.