This podcast is an absolute gem. Recorded over five years ago, it showcases who much people can learn about music by being in a band.Ash Naylor is a career musician and he shares stories of leading his own band and playing with others, including Australia’s most renowned singer-songwriter, Paul Kelly.There is so much wisdom and love in this episode. And it’s especially relevant for people who are a little sick of sporting or military metaphor to explain how teams really work.

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