This time we hear from Billy Porter; we learn lots about Dame Joan Collins; we chat about French Olympic pole vaulter Anthony Ammirati who dashed his olympic dreams with his own endowment; There’s a trip back to the 80’s to revisit the Golden Girls. Also, our new occasional feature… ‘I’m laughing now, but I wasn’t laughing then’

Remember you can hear a full version of this show featuring music tracks at mixcould.com/thisisndebz Catch up with the latest via @ThisisNDebz on X (Twitter). If you'd like to get in touch with the show you can email us via [email protected].