The criminal underworld has been shaken in recent months, with one of the biggest criminal cyber hacks the U.K. & Europe has seen 😅. Encrochat was a fully encrypted messaging service, which was allegedly used for drug importation, hiring hit men and various other violent offences. The government hacked the platform illegally, yeah you heard that right the government hacked it ILLEGALLY, but the resulting evidence is still convicting many criminals across Europe 👮‍♀️ . We know some of you are thinking WTF I am not a criminal, how am I supposed to know all this. That’s why we are joined by KC Criminal Lawyer Lorna Hackett from @the_twoheads podcast, who’s here to break down Encro and more importantly the wider question of “Do criminals have the right to a fair trial?”. We are also joined by ex-criminal offenders @poundchaselondon_, who contribute their view point on the system and whether it’s fair 🫣.

- 01:04 Intro

- 03:25 Subscribe

- 04:10 What is Encrochat?

- 09:35 Criminals hate this analogy

- 13:28 He sweated trying to answer this

- 13:20 Some Criminals should be let free

- 16:13 Lawyer explains getting a life sentence

- 17:29 Lawyer says drug dealers get smaller sentences

- 19:08 Lawyer explains representing guilty criminals

- 21:20 Lawyer explains how “criminals” can walk free

- 22:28 Lawyer explains court uses “Chinese Whispers” as evidence

- 25:17 Technology framed me for a crime

- 27:34 US Jury’s vs UK Jury’s

- 29:44 What is IPP?

- 32:43 Black Conservative challenges Lawyer

- 35:13 We are all sub consciously “racist”

- 35:50 Lawyer can’t answer this question

- 36:20 Lawyer states “he done 17 years on a 2 year sentence”

- 37:49 Lawyer says “The idea of IPP prison sentences is a good one”

- 39:53 Why we shouldn’t free the mandem?

- 40:37 Lawyer destroys Black Conservative

- 42:39 Black Conservative challenges Criminal Lawyer

- 44:54 Are Grapists insane?

- 46:50 Closing thoughts?

Literature and events referenced in episode:

- NCA in court “concealed information when applying for Encrochat warrants”: https://youtu.be/n809YJDofDo

- Encro Chat Hacked 770 UK Arrests & £54 million Cash in NCA/Police Operation: https://youtu.be/pN9PstgGkcc

- How French spies broke into EncroChat and rocked Northern Ireland’s drug dealers: https://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/podcasts/the-beltel/the-beltel-how-french-spies-broke-into-encrochat-and-rocked-northern-irelands-drug-dealers-42131326.html

- IPP sentencing regime in England and Wales called 'deeply harmful’: https://www.theguardian.com/law/2019/nov/10/ipp-sentencing-regime-in-england-and-wales-branded-deeply-harmful

- Shamima Begum: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-62726954

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