Mike talks with Stephen J. Ducat, an author, political psychologist, psychoanalyst, and former psychology professor in the School of Humanities at New College of California. They discuss Professor Ducat’s most recent book, Hatreds We Love: The Psychology of Political Tribalism in Post-Truth America.

Topics Mike and Stephen discuss include:

- why tribal loyalty often overrides material self-interest

- demonizing outsiders to reinforce in-group virtue

- conservative disgust vs liberal disdain

- the ‘malignant, intuitive genius’ of Donald Trump

- the dark side of political purity

- the importance of being morally multi-lingual

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