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Want to give a massive shout out to Gary Whittingham, lead singer of the #catwalkvillains for taking time out of his busy schedule and popping down to the studio for a candid chat on our latest episode of P&B.

In this episode we talk about the band's success within the #midlands #musicscene.

Not taking your self too serious, always having fun doing what you love, having no expectations and not forgetting the day job.

#Bandpolitics and settling creative differences without egos.

How #dirty blues is received in Birmingham and what influences the band's rock feel.

Growing up in the windrush generation and how music played a role in growing up through the time.

#Rootsandculture over #loversrock! how the hard socioeconomical messages hit home and how the social components of his youth are still being played out today.

Gary Whittingham is so much more than a musician though, day to day he works in the criminal justice system and has a no-nonsense approach to why and how we should deal with the issues facing the youth today.

During the second half we dive into what it was like being the only #blackpoliceman on the manor and the #prejudice he had to fight from both sides of the fence.

We talk on a #mollycoddled generation, #knifecrime  #criminaljustice and whole heap more .

It was truly and honour and a great chat.

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