Populism – what does it mean? Are we reaping the seeds of unfairness sown over the past decade? Is it just the views (and the votes) of the many not the few? What does it mean for economic growth and governance of the global economy? Does this lead to populist central bankers? What of ESG and the values that inform this – surely some of what’s going on at the moment is a turn away from the primacy of GDP as a measure? Richard Dunbar discusses politics and economics with Stephanie Kelly and Paul Diggle.