Dempsy speak with Uther Naysmith in episode 12 of Pondering Pennies. Uther Naysmith has participated in the UK's Labor party in support of Jeremy Corbyn. He studied law at Oxford and is currently working on his masters. Dempsy and Uther sit down to talk about different aspects of socialism that could be implemented in society to fix the issues people find in the worlds current capitalistic society.