In episode 36 of Pondering Pennies Dempsy and Rae speak with Neahga Leonard. Neahga Leonard is the director of the Cat Ba Langur Conservation Project (CBLCP) based on Cat Ba Island in northeast Vietnam. The CBLCP was established as a biodiversity conservation organization in late 2000, initially funded by the Allwetterzoo in Münster, Germany, and currently funded by Zoo Leipzig in Leipzig, Germany.

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