This week Shane and Stan are joined by returning guest Gabriel Maxson, aka SpiderSpace, to talk about the implications, impact, and potential uses of Preordain in Modern. Before that, we take a good look at the results from the NRD Detroit Modern $10k. How many copies of Preordain made the top 8? I guess we will never know....

The Break Down: NRG Detroit Results

The Dive Down: SpiderSpace on Preordain (aka Stan Loves Cantrips)


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Timestamps:

6:21 - Housekeeping

9:40 - The NRG Detroit Modern $10k metagame

34:45 - The NRG Top 8

44:54 - The NRG leaderboard

46:46 - An ocean of aroma

48:26 - The Dive Down begins: What's the deal with Preordain?

51:31 - Why Preordain was banned in the first place

54:28 - How does Preordain compare to what we had before?

1:02:54 - Are cantrips even good in Modern?

1:07:50 - Preordain's role in particular decks

1:32:04 - Did we decide anything here?

1:41:10 - Wrapping up

Links from this week's episode:

NRG Detroit: https://melee.gg/Tournament/View/15650

Find SpiderSpace on Twitter: https://twitter.com/spiderspacemtg?lang=en

Find SpiderSpace on Twitch: https://www.twitch.tv/spiderspace

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Episode 236: Pondering Preordain & NRG Detroit, ft. SpiderSpace

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On this week's show, the four amigos break down the results of the Modern Open at NRG Indianapolis, the last big paper Modern tournament before MH3 changes everything (presumably). Plus, D00mwake joins the dark side and started playing Phoenix. And Stan tries some new cards in Ensoul, plus a bunch of OJT drafts. 

The Break Down: The Motor City is a Real Zoo Meta

The Dive Down: Be the Bad Guy, Play Phoenix

The Dive Down cont.: Stan Likes OTJ


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Timestamps:

6:56 - Heavy Play is our favorite co-host

8:25 - Goodbye, Tanner!

12:23 - This week's show/housekeeping

17:15 - NRG Indy's Modern $10K

46:15 - Cool decks grab bag - d00m on Izzet Phoenix

56:36 - Stan played some new cards in Ensoul

1:08:20 - Talking about Freestrider Lookout

1:13:45 - Stan loves OTJ draft

1:25:40 - Wrapping up

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Episode 275: One Last Modern Tournament Before Everything Changes

After a brief intro, Stan is forced to drop out of the ep leaving Shane and Dave in the hot seat. First, they examine last weekend's 4 Modern Challenges in search of ideas, inspiration, and surprises. Do you know what the highest frequency deck was in all these Challenges? How about the one most likely to convert to an X-2 or better record? After all the event talk, the team goes deep into Andrea Mengucci's Gruul Prowess list from the weekend and welcome the return of the real king — Tarmogoyf. 

• Shane & Dave Take Over

• A Few Surprising Challenges

• More Talk About Tarmogoyf


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Timestamps:

1:55 - Stanley Cups x Heavy Play

5:33 - This week's show/housekeeping

9:49 - The current Modern Challenge metagame

34:48 - Gruul Prowess in Modern

51:25 - Is Abundant Harvest good?

54:22 - Is Questing Druid good?

58:26 - More on Gruul Prowess

1:11:52 - Briefly talking MH3 spoilers

1:18:37 - Turn it off if you want: some Survivor chat

1:24:50 - Wrapping up

Links from this week's episode:

Bamzing's Challenge Posts:

Saturday: https://www.reddit.com/r/ModernMagic/comments/1ckv7pz/saturday_modern_challenges_results_may_4_2024/

Sunday: https://www.reddit.com/r/ModernMagic/comments/1cllxrd/sunday_modern_challenges_results_may_5_2024/

Mengu's Prowess List:  https://x.com/Mengu09/status/1786721343523704991 

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Episode 274: Goyf Are So Back: Modern Challenges, Gruul Aggro (Prowess), & More

Shout out to Wizards of the Coast for seeing some poor quality card pictures in the wild and letting us see them in high definition instead. Official MH3 spoilers dropped this week, on the heels of the latest Pro Tour. Stan and D00mwake discuss!

Do Pro Tours still mean anything? Perhaps when the format they feature is fresh and exciting! We don't talk about Standard often, but enough innovations emerged at PT Thunder Junction, we were pumped to chat about the latest cards and winning decks. 

Speaking of latest cards. MH3 spoilers came early, despite the somewhat awkward circumstances. The Dive Down doesn't discuss leaks, but official spoilers have started to roll out and we chat about some standouts, including Flare of Denial, Winter Moon, Kappa Cannoneer, and Wight of the Reliquery. 

The Break Down: A Pro Tour for the Cowboy In All Of Us

The Dive Down: A Look, A New Free Counterspell


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Timestamps:

01:40 - Intro

02:00 - Holding a Heavy Play Heart

04:10 - A d00mwake-style Omelette

07:30 - This aggression will not stand

09:20 - This week’s show/housekeeping

16:05 - PT Seattle: What does it mean now?

19:40 - Overall Metagame

27:10 - Winrates

35:25 - Top 8

43:10 - Final thoughts on Standard

48:20 - Modern Horizons 3 early spoilers

49:05 - Nethergoyf

53:50 - Chthonian Nightmare

59:15 - Ugin’s Labyrinth

1:04:16 - Flare of Denial

1:09:22 - Kappa Cannoneer

1:12:45 - Winter Moon

1:16:25 - Wight of the Reliquary

1:21:21 - Wrapping Up

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Episode 273: High Res MH3 Spoilers & A Wild West Pro Tour

A new spellslinger's in town — goes by the name Slickshot Show-Off. This week we focus on the most hyped card coming into OTJ season, where it's fitting across formats, and talk about a few tricks to making sure the show off goes off without a hitch... off. Is there anything we can do to keep Dave from falling into a deep Prowess hole again? Probably not, but we're going to try — and just in case you're trying to avoid catching Prowess, too, we also talk about a few other decks Devon is having success with in Pioneer. But first — before all that — we dive into the Modern main event at this weekend's NRG Minneapolis tournament. 

• NRG Minneapolis

• The Show Off Rides Again

• It's Basically Demonic Tutor


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Timestamps:

4:30 - Heavy Play has clout

6:42 - This week's show/housekeeping

11:32 - The Break Down begins: NRG Minneapolis

24:34 - The top 8

28:55 - Cool Decks, Inc

33:04 - The Dive Down begins: We played some cool decks!

34:10 - Slickshot Showoff - does it live up to the hype in Modern?

56:45 - Does it live up to the hype in Pioneer?

1:09:05 - Golgari Vampires in Pioneer

1:16:35 - Azorius Mentor Zombies in Pioneer

1:25:18 - Wrapping up

Links from this week's episode:

NRG Modern Open Decklists: https://melee.gg/Tournament/View/51194

Alex Poulosky, Modern Temur Prowess: https://melee.gg/Decklist/View/388962

Nathan VanDinter, Modern Temur Prowess: https://melee.gg/Decklist/View/388996

Ryan Overturf, Modern Gruul Prowess: https://melee.gg/Decklist/View/387842

Devon O'Donnell, Pioneer Gruul Prowess: https://www.mtggoldfish.com/deck/6332355#paper 

d00mwake, Pioneer Golgari Vampires: https://www.mtggoldfish.com/deck/6338707#paper 

Devon O'Donnell (aka d00mwake), Pioneer UW Zombie Mentor: https://www.mtggoldfish.com/deck/6339425#paper 

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Episode 272: Slickshot Trick Shots

On this week’s show, we manage to fill that awkward week between spoilers and set release by preparing for the upcoming RCQ season, which conveniently kicks off this weekend. We take a look at the Pioneer metagame going into the season, and some possible upgrades from Outlaws of Thunder Junction that could shake up the format too.

Everything but the water and Clif Bars

New season old decks

D00m has prepared some new decks


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Timestamps:

5:42 - Barenaked Heavy Play

7:35 - This week's show/housekeeping

11:17 - The Dive Down begins: Prepping for Pioneer RCQ season

22:21 - The current Pioneer meta - Tier 1

42:07 - The Tier 2 decks

56:31 - Some Cool Decks

59:50 - d00m's hot new decks for Pioneer

1:22:01 - Wrapping up

Links from this week's episode:

Anael Yahi's Data: https://twitter.com/anaelyahi/status/1779962905099665648

Metagame Mentor: https://magic.gg/news/metagame-mentor-the-pioneer-decks-to-defeat-at-april-2024-rcqs

MTGDecks.net Pioneer Winrates: https://mtgdecks.net/Pioneer/winrates

D00m's Dimir Proft: https://www.mtggoldfish.com/deck/6322644#paper

D00m's Slickshot Heroic: https://www.mtggoldfish.com/deck/6322647#paper

D00m's Azorius Geralf: https://www.mtggoldfish.com/deck/6322650#paper

D00m's MonoB Bronco: https://www.mtggoldfish.com/deck/6322652#paper

D00m's Bant Plot: https://www.mtggoldfish.com/deck/6322653#paper

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Episode 236: Pondering Preordain & NRG Detroit, ft. SpiderSpace

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