Above the Sides

Pono Shim on Leadership through Struggle [2020]


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In this episode, drawn from recordings in May and June 2020, Uncle Pono Shim reflects on the launch of the Aloha Response cohorts. He describes the early pilot as a leadership development space without credentials, certificates, or external markers of achievement, only a commitment to practice, reflection, and shared experience over time. From those first cohorts, he shares how leadership emerged through struggle, and how aloha is something that must be actively practiced rather than assumed. Mahalo for listening.

Welcome to the Above the Sides podcast! Join us on our journey to uncover what it means to think, act, and live aloha. The inspiration for this podcast is the late Pono Shim, former President and CEO of the Oʻahu Economic Development Board. His stories capture the essence of what it means to live aloha. He made it known that aloha is a lifestyle. It is not a solution to problems, a marketing brand or to be used as an advantage over anyone else. Aloha is to be honored and practiced.

The name of this podcast is in reverence of Hawaiʻi's Queen Liliʻuokalani, who wrote: "To gain the kingdom of heaven is to hear what is not said, to see what cannot be seen, and to know the unknowable – that is Aloha. All things in this world are two; in heaven there is but One.” Through these episodes, we seek to find that singular perspective, the one that is "above the sides" as we strive for universal peace.

We welcome you to pause with us as we share the stories and voices of Hawai’i business leaders, educators and community members who have chosen to be lifelong students of aloha. Mahalo nui loa for listening.

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