In this heartfelt, hilarious, and unexpectedly wild episode of Wander and Ponder, host Cathy sits down with Emmy-winning animal trainer and TV host Brandon McMillan—best known from CBS’s Lucky Dog. From growing up among tigers in the circus to training service dogs for wounded veterans, Brandon shares his extraordinary path and the life-changing pivot that led him to where he is today.

You’ll hear:

• Why dog training is more about the human than the pup

• His near-death run-ins with Akitas and great white sharks

• Practical puppy advice for busy people (yes, crate training IS a lifesaver)

• How Beluga and Luna, Cathy's mischievous Frenchies, stacked up in Brandon’s expert eyes

Brandon also opens up about the emotional power of service dogs, what most people get wrong about training, and why picking up poop isn’t beneath anyone—especially him. Whether you’re a dog parent, an animal lover, or just curious about living boldly, this episode is for you. So grab a cup of tea, and let’s wander and ponder together.