This podcast is a slice of musical, cultural and political history. Large claims for a small podcast, but what the hell. I did this phone interview with Pops Staples, on the morning after Race Riots started in LA after cops were acquitted in relation to beating up Rodney King. And even though we did talk about Pops new album World in Motion, the conversation covered systematic racism in America, his despair becuase of that, memories of racism in the South, white people ripping off black music and making millions while black musicians such as himself had to battle more than thirty years to even get the royalties due to him after The Rolling Stones "borrowed," their word, his song The Last Time. A change better come.