Recorded 12 May 2022

Catherine Fieschi, is the founder of Counterpoint, a think tank, and the author of “Populocracy.” Her focus is populism and European politics. She wrote her PhD thesis on Jean-Marie Le Pen and spent time with the family in their chateau. Consequently, she knows more than most about France’s pretender to the presidential throne. Macron won this time, but it is not the end of the hard right or left for that matter in France or elsewhere. We take a longer-term view of French politics and populism in Europe