Host Jeff Lockwood and head chef of AJ's Steakhouse John Brown talk pork shoulder, from making fresh sausage to Southern barbecue to sous vide. Plus, Skip Clary talks about the 2014 Pinnacoli Primitivo di Manduria and why it works with smoky pork. Recorded at Station Twelve and at the KBBI studios in Homer, Alaska on October 18, 2018.