This weeks episode is with former MVP Phoenix player, and man who coached Liquid to winning The International 7 - Heen.

We spoke about what it was like to coach liquid and to win an international and why he stepped away from the team recently. We also talk about his playing career and what he's recently been up to.

You can follow me on twitter https://twitter.com/danieloffen and join the position six discord channel at https://discordapp.com/invite/pZyU7FX