In this episode, Derek and Jonathan reconnect to unpack the emotions, hopes, and challenges surrounding the inauguration. They explore what the political transition means for progressive faith communities, the ongoing fight for justice, and the role of the Church in a divided nation.

With their signature blend of candid conversation and theological insight, they discuss how to move beyond symbolism into substantive action and what it means to remain prophetic in this new political landscape.

What does the inauguration change? What remains the same? And how do we stay grounded in hope without losing sight of the work ahead? Tune in for a deep and timely conversation.