Zsuzsanna Szelényi was a former member of Orban's Fidesz party. She witnessed his rise to power, and the democratic backlash of the country, described in full detail in her book ''Tainted Democracy''. She also founded her own political party, called ''together party'', to fight Orban's power in the country in the 2012 elections.

In this conversation, Zsuzsanna explores the recent elections and what the defeat of Orban's means for Hungary's, and the EU's, future.