In this wide-ranging and hilarious episode of {framed} Interviews, old friends Ron, West, and Michael reunite for a storytelling session that drifts from the Beat Poets to Berlin art scenes, from BBC broadcasts of the Falklands War to a naked woman with a potato in Utah. Along the way, they unpack what it means to collect art, support artists, and chase meaning through creative obsession.

Featuring deep dives into German Neo-Expressionism, wild band tours, early MTV, and near-mythical tales of escape and reinvention, this episode is both a love letter to a life in the arts — and a reminder that some of the best stories are the ones too strange to make up.

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