PhD Candidate, sound artist and performer Susan Matthews is welcomed to the pod to discuss topics that resonate with both her and Olivers practice. This episodes conversation highlights the importance of sharing experiences of trauma through artwork, how it can fortify recovery and help us to connect with others. It also looks cool and sounds fancy. Enjoy!

Texts mentioned in this episode:

A Thousand Plateaus: Capitalism and Schizophrenia by Gilles Deleuze and Felix Guattari (University of Minnesota Press, 1987)

Powers of Horror: An Essay on Abjection by Julia Kristeva (translated edn. Columbia University Press, 1982)

How Not To Kill Yourself by Clancy Martin (Oneworld Publications, 2023)

Your Brain On Art by Susan Magsamen and Ivy Ross (Canongate, 2023)

Facing Infinity: Black Holes and Our Place on Earth by Jonas Enander (Atlantic Books, 2025)

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