In this episode Simon and Nick have a ceremony to commemorate The House of Magic closing it’s doors, discuss more about China, gigs you do for pleasure vs. gigs for money, cruise ship gigs, zen philosophy, business side of magic vs personal side, hating the phrase, “Do what you love and never work a day in your life”, Rick and Morty season three, fandom culture, adjusting to an audience’s energy, taking compliments, YouTube criticism and much more!

Opening Clip:

The West Wing: Season 6, Episode 8

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