The topic is individual spiritual discernment, and our guests are Jerry Knutson, author of a Pendle Hill Pamphlet on the subject, and Kat Griffith, who is working with Jerry on translating it into Spanish for a Latin American audience, with the prospect of jointly leading workshops on the topic. Jerry's first master's degree was in Environmental Engineering, and his second was a Master of Divinity degree from Earlham School of Religion.