Episode 316 - PowerScripting Podcast - Jeffrey Snover from Microsoft on Open Sourced PowerShell v6

Jeffrey Snover from Microsoft on open source PowerShell   Slack Chatroom We are the live-podcast channel   Interview The announcement YouTube video with PowerShell on Linux demos The PowerShell Repository New PowerShell learning info   Chatroom Highlights ## What about ARM? is ## for questions? ## @halr9000 did you find a goat to come on the show as a special guest? ## jsnover needs more edge in his life ## PowerShell is dating bikers. ##Jeffrey, where were y'all hiding Ken Van Hyning all these years? ##jeffrey where did you get inspired to bulid powershell? ok, if you have q’s, then as sqlvariant has shown, please add ## to the front! ## Is that all? ## ARM support? ## SSHRM ## remember OneGet and the legal team? :stuck_out_tongue: juneb: prefix questions w/ ## ## Please tell us more about the governance model. ## how did legal allow MIT license? ## Were there lessons learned working with legal/folks unfamiliar with OSS?  I know Chef offers a webinar for legal folks, it seems like it would be helpful for large orgs like Microsoft to help sell and teach this ## Will the roles of team members change? ## How can I get paid to work on open source powershell? :-P ## I second Rich's question: what's with the release timing? ## When will core help be open-sourced? ## wait, is that why CIM? ## Can we get an explaination on the Powershell RFC Process for changes ## ## since we're now taking comments, is the team aware that some nuget packages (like Microsoft.Management.Infrastrucutre) are missing XML doc files? ## For bugs should we still use uservoice, connect, or github issues now? ### We noticed version 6 on PowerShell for Linux, when can we expect ver 6 on Winders ### ### is there any PowerShell features that don't work in PS Core? ## For Linux services would you expect to use Get-Services or a new cmdlet like Get-LinuxServices? ##This is why we need Out-DataTable to be in PowerShell core!!  :slightly_smiling_face: ## when might we see remoting to Azure/Office 365 tenants from Mac/Linux? ## will powershell run hurd ###I need mah winforms in Linux, can we get System.Windows.Forms ports to linux plz ## my thing about XML doc files ## yeah but what about rasbian ## Raspbian! ## Yes, it was around Raspbian/linux ## NEED ARM! ## need xml doc files in all the nuget pkgs ## Sooooo, how do I get PowerShell on my Chromebook? ## Do we use UserVoice or GitHub issues? ## will we be able to organize assets in our modules for different platforms?  or will module authors be required to manage that on their own? ### will script block loging work with syslog? ## Well SQL Server is on Linux so they have a business case :champagne: ## will we be able to organize assets in our modules for different platforms?  or will module authors be required to manage that on their own? ## what is next for Snover and team?  e.g. Drawbridge, rewriting kernel, on-premise DSC mgmt system ## e.g., right now I have to manually load 32 or 64 bit native dlls in my modules; will I need to manually load linux vs windows as well? ## any thoughts on deeper PS integration with Python etc, beyond strings? ## will get a restapi  for AD, and will we get Join domains cmdlets for powershell on mac ## OOH. DSC using powershell on linux, instead of the separate DSC package??? ##Have there been any advancements in DSC on Linux? ## DSC will we see a revamp of the DSC for linux to kill off python ## ##Are you aware of any other vendors writing psmodules for Linux right now? ##Snover, was PSDirect one of the drivers for PSnix?  Being able to manage Win/Nix on Nano server Hyper-V with one language ##or MAC? ## will we see modules to manage bind9 or dhcpd or other services or MYSQL? ##Forgive me if this was already answered, but can we now powershell remote to Linux? ## do we require !#/usr/local/bash ## will there ever be a means to #! powershell in a script ## what about text enconding ## what can we expect in the next 6, 12 months ## Yes, upcoming roadmap?? ## what about an update to the conhost terminal in windows ? Will it support more then 256 colour? ## ONE MORE!  What's next for Snover and team? ##Ask about Ken Van Hyning (SQL Tools team) where were they hiding him?!?! ## What question is he up to? One thing on an island? ## Oh you guys don't ask the last question any more? ###Whats next, will they take DIR away from us? ## As of PS5+, does Write-Host write to stream or no? ###Found it ## Is the redirect operator modified in linux or does it behave as per normal? ## Wouldn't this be the role of .NET Standard?? <<@UNJM7|jonwalz>> jonwalz uploaded a file: Pasted image at 2016-08-18, 8:51 PM https://powershell.slack.com/files/jonwalz/F22RNF6UQ/pasted_image_at_2016_08_18_08_51_pm.png and commented: Anyone else seeing PowerShell as the top trending topic on Facebook? https://github.com/PowerShell/PowerShell/blob/master/docs/community/governance.md https://github.com/PowerShell/PowerShell/tree/master/src/Microsoft.Management.Infrastructure.CimCmdlets Governance model: https://github.com/PowerShell/PowerShell/blob/master/docs/community/governance.md btw PowerShell going open source is trending on facebook :)  https://www.facebook.com/topic/Windows-Powershell/109314949087498?source=whfrt&position;=2&trqid;=6320345599904818250 @foxde https://github.com/PowerShell/PowerShell/blob/master/docs/installation/windows.md#msi <<@UPLLB|halr9000>> halr9000 uploaded a file: Untitled https://powershell.slack.com/files/halr9000/F22S025RC/-.pl https://www.reddit.com/r/PowerShell/comments/4yb5yb/who_is_the_mystery_guest_tonight_and_what_might/d6mgixw https://stedolan.github.io/jq/ @whatevergeek https://developer.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/iot/getstarted I liked this thread in hacker news: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=12314653 - nice demonstration of why, even if you *can* use text, you might prefer objects Linus actually is cool with systemd:  https://linux.slashdot.org/story/15/06/30/0058243/interviews-linus-torvalds-answers-your-question https://gist.github.com/Jaykul/15a6982aad9b6197a537f1ce5a786723 regarding Aliases there is an open issue here at  https://github.com/PowerShell/PowerShell/issues/929 here's the PR @jsnover mentioned https://github.com/PowerShell/PowerShell/pull/1901 I've suggested this as a resolution https://github.com/PowerShell/PowerShell/issues/929#issuecomment-239697927 ARM!!! https://media.giphy.com/media/HJN39I1q6EBKE/giphy.gif @itadder the hard part is that other than ASP.NET http://ASP.NET Core there is no presentation stack for .NET Core.  VSCode gets a pass because it uses Electron / Chromium / Html / JS http://electron.atom.io/apps/ And you can actually write Electron using C#:  https://github.com/kexplo/electron-edge https://youtu.be/2WZwv7TxqZ0 possible alternate to ogv, don't know if works on the new stuff yet https://github.com/dfinke/PowerShellSlackathon/tree/master/ExportDataTable http://redhatloves.net/ also https://github.com/Pash-Project/Pash/issues/429 Is .ps a TLD?  RedHat should get RedHatLoves.ps http://RedHatLoves.ps First book should be written in the open on https://www.gitbook.com/ https://github.com/PowerShell/PowerShell/issues/1103 https://github.com/PowerShell/PowerShell/issues/1390 https://cloud.google.com/tools/powershell/docs/ dereksonthejob  http://prnt.sc/c7jmuo Explor .NET API Catalog:  http://apisof.net/catalog/System <<@URXAA|dereksonthejob>> dereksonthejob uploaded a file: Screen Shot 2016-08-18 at 10.41.10 PM https://powershell.slack.com/files/dereksonthejob/F22SKJQLR/screen_shot_2016-08-18_at_10.41.10_pm.png and commented: here we go @jonwalz Can you include in the show notes that SQL Server got 3 new cmdlets, and people can get the new SqlServer module by installing SSMS 16.3 http://sqlps.io/dl <<@URXAA|dereksonthejob>> dereksonthejob uploaded a file: @r_keith_hill https://powershell.slack.com/files/dereksonthejob/F22SRLC02/screen_shot_2016-08-18_at_10.41.10_pm.png and commented: I have it now, thx to @itadder https://github.com/PowerShell/PowerShell/issues/1621 https://github.com/PowerShell/PowerShell/issues/706 https://github.com/PowerShell/PowerShell/issues/1273 Oh, here's a video we did last month if people need to catch up to speed on what's going on with SQL PowerShell in 2016: https://youtu.be/rc6lwiTE9GI http://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/695/where-does-mac-os-x-come-from <<@UNNCY|r_keith_hill>> r_keith_hill uploaded a file: RE line endings: https://powershell.slack.com/files/r_keith_hill/F22SHCYDB/pasted_image_at_2016_08_18_08_54_pm.png and commented: Just a LF but concerns me the default encoding is unicode for out-file still