I share my thoughts on the parallels between the 4 Crisis Principles Ellen Kullman shared on the Masters of Scale podcast to my concept of the "Foundational Four" areas to begin team and organizational success

PPP39: Ellen Kullman's 4 Crisis Principles and the Foundational Four

Where project management meets public safety. Real-world tools and insight with Kevin Pannell.

Hosted by Kevin Pannell, PMP, CSM, Prosci, PSC III—a U.S. Navy and public safety veteran with over two decades of experience in emergency management, healthcare IT, and project leadership—this podcast bridges the gap between structured planning and real-time response.

Each episode delivers practical tactics, leadership lessons, and field-tested tools for professionals operating at the intersection of public safety, emergency management, and complex projects. Whether you're leading a response team, managing a high-stakes initiative, or coordinating across agencies, this is your briefing room for what works in the real world.

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Where project management meets public safety. Real-world tools and insight with Kevin Pannell. Hosted by Kevin Pannell, PMP, CSM, Prosci, PSC III—a U.S. Navy and public safety veteran with over two decades of experience in emergency management, healthcare IT, and project leadership—this podcast bridges the gap between structured planning and real-time response. Each episode delivers practical tactics, leadership lessons, and field-tested tools for professionals operating at the intersection of public safety, emergency management, and complex projects. Whether you're leading a response team, managing a high-stakes initiative, or coordinating across agencies, this is your briefing room for what works in the real world.

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PPP39: Ellen Kullman's 4 Crisis Principles and the Foundational Four

PPP39: Ellen Kullman's 4 Crisis Principles and the Foundational Four