Talking through the parallel universes of Jocko Willink and Leif Babin's 4 laws of combat, my "Foundational 4" and my $.02 on 4 key Project Management foundations

PPP51: 4 Laws of Combat, Incident and Project Management

Where project management meets public safety. Real-world tools and insight with Kevin Pannell.

Hosted by Kevin Pannell, PMP, CSM, Prosci, PSC III—a U.S. Navy and public safety veteran with over two decades of experience in emergency management, healthcare IT, and project leadership—this podcast bridges the gap between structured planning and real-time response.

Each episode delivers practical tactics, leadership lessons, and field-tested tools for professionals operating at the intersection of public safety, emergency management, and complex projects. Whether you're leading a response team, managing a high-stakes initiative, or coordinating across agencies, this is your briefing room for what works in the real world.

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Where project management meets public safety. Real-world tools and insight with Kevin Pannell. Hosted by Kevin Pannell, PMP, CSM, Prosci, PSC III—a U.S. Navy and public safety veteran with over two decades of experience in emergency management, healthcare IT, and project leadership—this podcast bridges the gap between structured planning and real-time response. Each episode delivers practical tactics, leadership lessons, and field-tested tools for professionals operating at the intersection of public safety, emergency management, and complex projects. Whether you're leading a response team, managing a high-stakes initiative, or coordinating across agencies, this is your briefing room for what works in the real world.

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PPP51: 4 Laws of Combat, Incident and Project Management

PPP51: 4 Laws of Combat, Incident and Project Management