Program Note: This episode was recorded prior to Hurricane Helene.

What really happened in the New Mexico desert in 1947? We turn to a surprise guest and a shocking theory, one born from solid research and nurtured with reason: though the human ability to reason may come into question. The answer terrifies perhaps as much as any extra terrestrial reality.

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