This is my second interview with JR Woodward. JR is an author, church planter, and disciple-making disciple who has been laboring to advance the Kingdom of God on both coasts for over two decades. He is one of the founders the V3 church planting movement, author of "Creating a Missional Culture" and now "The Church as Movement." He is a positively disrupting force in the missional church world and brings a gregarious, curious, and hungry spirit into every missional space he enters. In this wide-ranging conversation we talk about my beard, the Trump election, the recent Praxis Gathering, spaces of belonging, the clerical captivity of the church...and much much more.