In episode three of our collaboration with TIME'S UP, we ask: how can Black women+ representation in advertising and film/TV effect change?

Advertising Chief Officer Christena Pyle and actress/filmmaker Winter Dunn sit down with Fanshen and Anya about the challenges around authentic representation, the responsibility of Black creators and white executives, the emotional labor required in diversity, inclusion, and equity work, the utility of "pipeline" programs, and the power of creating our own narratives.