Travis mentions the importance of breathing properly, hand placement and being intentional about breathing. Travis laments that he didn't take Michael Rosenblum's idea to journal his journey in the hospital but has recently started in his blog posts. Ben also mentions how journaling helps you process the events, facts and how far you've come in the journey. It can also be valuable tool to your counselor and loved ones.

Ben brings up being mindful and connection. Travis brings up coloring as a way to focus on what is in front of you. Ben says he draws and helps him enjoy the moment. Will discusses the importance of exercise in relieving his anxiety. Will especially enjoys walking with his wife. He mentions that some people find relaxation by getting in a "body of water" either going the beach or a shower. He also brings up the importance of surrounding yourself with people who are open to the existence of anxiety. The discussion even touches on knowing what you have control of and how that helps with anger management.

Ben then poses the question "Is anxiety a sin?" and opens it up to Travis and Will's thoughts. All of the guys bring up Jesus' "Sermon on the Mount" but specifically Matthew 6 and 7. The guys then encourage you to reach out to us at facebook.com/groups/benandtravis and give some information about the July 2021 challenge.