Ari's joined for the second time by her mom, Victoria! They discuss Victoria's praying mantis obsession, falling in love again after death, and Ari's very specific fear that kept her in diapers until almost 5.  

For more on Victoria: https://victorialorrekovich-miller.com/
To purchase her children's book: https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/if-a-mantis-finds-a-fly-in-the-sky-victoria-lorrekovich-miller/1138766279

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