Commander Social

Precon Showdown - Ep93

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  5. Ep 93 Community Spotlight:
    1. We tend to think of 5 years as recent, but we know a lot of our listeners (and Patrons) might be newer to Magic, so we thought it might be fun to go back and look at the past 5 years of Commander Precons.
      1. Value (We’re gonna discuss a lot of this below, but let's try and mention the others on this list as well)
        1. Disclaimer: The MtG market is in a bit of chaos, things seem way more expensive than they ever have been. (Overmaster is $40!). We certainly aren’t finance experts but both of us follow the Secondary Market pretty regularly.
      3. Cool Cards (We talked about this in our previous episode, but it’s still one of the most important pieces to the pre-cons long term)
      4. Fun to Play
      5. Balanced to play against each other
      6. Good enough to hang with your meta’s constructed decks
    2. There are lots of ways to evaluate Precons.
      1. C21 - Focused on Each College Identity
        1. Whole deck, singles price in ()
        1. Lorehold Legacies - $38.48 (Singles - 102.80)
        2. Prismari Performance - $39.25 (Singles - 71.66)
        3. Quantum Quandrix - $38.06 (Singles - 86.83)
        4. Silverquill Statement - $37.83 (Singles - 83.31)
        5. Witherbloom Witchcraft - $37.71 (Singles - 68.48)
        6. Bundle of all 5 - $189.04 (Mothership has this for $179.99)
      3. I’m gonna do the values of singles in the deck based on mtggoldfish, I did look on ebay, and most of the decks were costing about the same as the cost of the singles, with maybe a slight discount.
        1. https://www.mtggoldfish.com/articles/commander-2017-decklists
        2. Feline Ferocity - $269.93
        3. Vampiric Bloodlust  - $257.06
        4. Draconic Domination - $255.23
        5. Arcane Wizardry - $149.86
      4. C17 - Tribal Theme
        1. https://www.mtggoldfish.com/articles/commander-2018-decklists
        2. Exquisite Invention - $110.94
        3. Subjective Reality - $90.64
        4. Nature's Vengeance - $120.56
        5. Adaptive Enchantment - $91.01
      5. C18 - Planeswalker Commanders
        1. https://www.mtggoldfish.com/articles/weekly-update-aug-11-commander-2019-decklists
        2. Faceless Menace - $66.20
        3. Mystic Intellect - $91.57
        4. Primal Genesis - $67.86
        5. Merciless Rage - $46.07
      6. C19 - Each deck focused on a mechanic (Morph, Flashback, Populate, Madness)
        1. https://www.mtggoldfish.com/articles/full-commander-2020-decklists
        2. Enhanced Evolution - $66.25
        3. Symbiotic Swarm - $45.86
        4. Timeless Wisdom - $87.87
        5. Arcane Maelstrom - $83.67
        6. Ruthless Regiment - $63.41
      7. C20 - Mechanics (Mutate, Cycling, Copy Spells, Token Creatures
    3. Buying individual Decks
    4. Top 5 Most Expensive Cards from Precons C17 - C21
      1. C17 -  - $217.01
        1. Edgar Markov 60.08
          1. All time low $2.39
          2. Spent an entire year < $5
          1. All-time low $12.29
          2. Spent 3 months < $20
        3. Teferi's Protection 44.13
          1. All-time low $2.99
          2. Spent a year < $10
        4. Kindred Discovery 40.7
          1. All-time low $3.23
          2. Spent a year < $6
        5. The Ur-Dragon 39.65
          1. All-time low $1.49
          2. Spent a year < $7
        6. Kindred Dominance 32.45
        1. Nesting Dragon 17.42
        2. Retrofitter Foundry 16.41
        3. Treasure Nabber 14.28
        4. Xantcha, Sleeper Agent 13.87
        5. Sower of Discord 11.9
      3. C18 - $73.88
        1. Dockside Extortionist 48.22
          1. All-time low - $13.28
          2. Quickly went to $20, and after 8 months just kept going up
        3. Ohran Frostfang 17.92
        4. K'rrik, Son of Yawgmoth 5.1
        5. Sevinne's Reclamation 4.36
        6. Apex Altisaur 3.18
      4. C19 - $78.78
        1. Fierce Guardianship 34.43
          1. All-time low - $29.97
          2. All-time high - $80.24, relatively flat aside from that early spike, that lasted roughly a month
          1. All-time low - $14.78
          2. Stayed under $20 for 7 months, and then spiked
        3. Deflecting Swat 30.1
        4. Deadly Rollick 15.58
        5. Flawless Maneuver 8.3
        6. Ethereal Forager 4.07
      5. C20 - $92.48
        1. Archaeomancer's Map 19.63
        2. Veyran, Voice of Duality 16.96
        3. Adrix and Nev, Twincasters 13.8
        4. Monologue Tax 13.25
        5. Esix, Fractal Bloom 8.61
      6. C21 - $59.00
    5. For all of the individual cards it might be fun to look at the price graphs on https://www.mtgstocks.com/ (I looked at all the graphs for cards currently valued at $30 or more)
    6. Summary - What has been your favorite set of Precon Decks? How do you think this year's offering stacks up to previous years? Did you like this kind of episode? Were we too heavy on the finance stuff?
  6. Main Topic - Precon Showdown
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