CONTENT WARNING: We discuss suicide and suicidal ideation for a small chunk in the middle of this episode. If you want to avoid both the conversation about it and our content/trigger warning, skip from 26:34-32:01. If you or a loved one need help ever, the AFSP is a great place to start: https://afsp.org/

Book #2 babbbyyyyy!!!! I looked for almost 20 minutes and I could NOT find the David Tennant interview I referenced, sorry babes. I'll just let that morsel tempt you into finding out why we talk about David Tennant in this episode!