In this episode I have a very vulnerable conversation with Saron who is a doula and is back on the podcast to share her story navigating how she overcame her 4 pregnancy losses. We discuss how we can hold our loved ones going through such losses and what those who experience pregnancy loss do not need to hear. I suggest how we can begin to treat our mothers who have had a pregnancy loss in the way we may treat our new mamas as they’re body has also gone through the process physical, emotionally and spiritually. We discuss how grieving this process is necessary and we bring up that you’re experience is valid no matter how late or early your loss may have been. We touch on how seeking professional help through a therapist helped Saron and how we can assist those grieving with other children a warm meal and what we can actually say to help these mamas feel held. Saron calls me higher as I unintentionally and as I learn how to be there for these women suggest that a lesson could come be behind it, a true beauty of how we as women can guide each other with such beauty and grace. We hope that this episode may bring you healing as it has for both Saron and I as we connected. You can connect with me and tell me what you gathered and served you from this episode on Instagram @_janeth.lee_ You can find Saron @birthinrainbows on Instagram, on Facebook @birthingrainbowsdoula and by email at [email protected] To read Saron experience through pregnancy loss https://www.rooteddoula.com/blog/pregnancy-amp-infant-loss-sarons-story