Join us for a review of two total drubbings, with the Dogs and Demons making it through to the grand final for the first time since 1954. Is this the end of the road for Geelong? Can Port regroup and go again? Plus - Starman rears its ugly head, a Brownlow Medal preview, Gus levels the score in reverse shine a light, and we discuss footballers who don't want anyone else talking about football.

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