Pres and Jake sit down to talk about Pres' newest offering "Still In Debt" and the challenges of being a creative entrepreneur. This is a deep conversation that sounds like a therapy session at times, but the hope is that conversations like these will help others not feel so alone in their struggles. The boys announced that unfortunately, they'll be taking a break from the podcast for an unknown amount of time due to low demand and high operations costs. Thank you so much for tuning in and make sure to follow us to get updated when the show starts back up!

Song: ⁠⁠⁠"Still In Debt"⁠⁠⁠

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Lyrics:

Gave up too much

I can’t move on

I won’t lose my faith

8 years in and I’m still in debt

How I ain’t get to millions yet

Still got faith

People ask how I ain’t lose the feeling yet

I don’t know, I don’t know I don’t know

I don’t know I don’t know, I don’t know

I don’t know, I don’t know I don’t know

I don’t know I don’t know, I don’t know

But let me tell you where I think it begins

Ain’t start with talent or money to spend

Worked for ‘em both and they had an expense

Shit was a circus, the stress was intense

Neither was working, just hurt and suspense

So I quit when I bossed up, got on the offense

I ain’t saying it’s awful, but honeymoons end

Now I feel like I’m lost when comparing to friends

Josh and his wifey in the south

Tedd became a teacher, really changed his whole route

Jake locked in, I just helped him move out

I’m writing slaps on my mom’s couch, damn

Don’t want them to wait for me

‘Cause I know with a 9 to 5 It’d be the same for me

But watching artists getting jobs, what I hate to see

I got a lot of fucking problems with complacency though I’m

8 years in and I’m still in debt

How I ain’t get to millions yet

Still got faith

People ask how I ain’t lose the feeling yet

I don’t know, I don’t know I don’t know

I don’t know I don’t know, I don’t know

I don’t know, I don’t know I don’t know

I don’t know I don’t know, I don’t know

Y’all don’t know what I’ve done for this shit

I’m in the hole more than I predicted

Back when I wrote all my goals for big shit

If I fold, it was just a wish list

And I’d be hopeless without a mission

Will I be homeless if I persist with

My form of coping I call a business

Though I’m broke, got a plot to fix it all

It’s the same ole dream

That I’ve had in my head since a young 16

Give work, get bread with the same ole team

Just gotta do it bigger, it’s the same routine

Thank god the flame burn deep

Though it’s burning me alive and the pain OC

It’s all on me to tame it, shame on me

For the times that I ain’t put the blame on me, I’m

8 years in and I’m still in debt

How I ain’t get to millions yet

Still got faith

People ask how I ain’t lose the feeling yet

I don’t know, I don’t know I don’t know

I don’t know I don’t know, I don’t know

I don’t know, I don’t know I don’t know

I don’t know I don’t know, I don’t know

Gave up too much

I can’t move on

I won’t lose my faith