This is a preview of episode # 103 of the Making after school cool podcast. During this preview you will hear my conversation with Helen Spencer, who is a doctoral student with the University of Houston. Ms. Spencer discussed her work concerning the experiences of Out of School time professional during the peak of COVID 19.  During her interviews, she heard personnel working in the after-school field describe their difficulties during this unprecedented time, their trusting of collaborative partners  and the lesson they learned during the pandemic