In this podcast Rory talks to real estate expert Rob Cass (and friend of the pod), Director of Irish Sustainable Homes, about the housing crisis, how Ireland is not full, we have land and vacant buildings but a failure to acknowledge and plan for real levels of housing need, and three ways in which  we can provide housing for everyone here, and the diaspora and future population growth , why the market wont provide affordable homes and how we can do it, through a number of ways including changing local authority plans, providing credit for SMEs to build and renovate, investing in vacant and derelict housing in towns across the country.