Davy Adams has lived many lives, from becoming a loyalist paramilitary, to go on to contribute to the Good Friday Agreement and then to carry out humanitarian work in places like Syria, Sudan and Sierra Leone.

He joined me to talk about his bottom-up view on conflict, his take on the US-Israel war on Iran and why despite all the horrors he's seen, he remains hopeful.

Yes, I brought him to the Diggers for a Sambo and Coddle