The Minister for Housing, Darragh O'Brien, came back to the tortoise shack for the first time this year for a full and pretty frank conversation on the many challenges the housing emergency has created. 

We discuss the 'right to housing', the no-fault eviction ban, the 11,998 people who are officially homeless, the asylum seeker accommodation crisis, the tension between government departments, the need to seriously address Traveller accommodation, tackling short-term rentals and lots more.