In this Echo Chamber Podcast, cofounder of secondtree.org and longtime humanitarian, Gio Fontana, joins us from Brussel's to discuss the crueler policies contained within the new EU Migration Pact, the "pushbacks" that are working at the expense of our own humanity and the split between right wing economics and the right wing immigration policy.

We also talk about the latest developments in the case of Fatmata, who listeners will remember was shot and killed by Border Police in North Macedonia.