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In this episode of Sacred & Strange, Jay sits down with his longtime friend Josh to explore a story marked by trauma, transformation, and the search for belonging. From a chaotic childhood to ministry, mental health work, and the sacred solitude of the wilderness, Josh shares how he’s learned to face his wounds, protect sacred space, and step fully into the role of father. Their conversation moves through raw honesty, dark humor, and moments of grace—ending with a challenge to be kind to yourself and embrace what remains when the noise fades.

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