In this conversation, Richard and Kathy explore the theme of discerning God's will, especially as the new year approaches. They discuss the importance of enjoying life, relationships, and having margin in one's schedule. The conversation emphasizes the necessity of surrendering one's own will to align with God's plan, and the significance of living out one's faith rather than merely speaking about it. They also touch on the challenges of following God's path and the process of returning to it when one has strayed.

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