Kim and Luca are joined by two members of the Prisoner Solidarity Network to discuss the prison system, criminal justice and the fight for Prison Abolition.

John Bowden is a long-time prison organiser, recently released after a 40 year prison sentence. While his co-defendants were released 20 years earlier, John's sentence was continually increased as he worked to draw attention to human rights violations and brutality within the system.

He is joined by Matt Roberts, a fellow PSN member, a musician and activist who has recently made a series of short films to draw attention to the issues PSN works on.

This extraordinary and far reaching conversation draws on John's first hand experience, the ideology behind abolition, how it compares to prison reform, what a post-prison world may look and how we get there.

Prisoner Solidarity Network website

Prisoner Solidarity Network youtube channel

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