In this episode, I talk with the great and powerful Skeeva from the Between Realities podcast. On his platforms, Skeeva is vocal about how Oculus' mandatory Facebook signup is hurting gamers. Many find themselves in the situation that they can not leave the personal data-selling company without losing hundreds of dollars in games. We discuss the advantages and disadvantages of the Quest 2, or the biodata theft unit as Skeeva calls it, and what is needed in an Oculus Quest 2 competitor. Moreover, we discuss the pro's and con's of having Apple enter the VR market which is rumored to happen soon. We also discuss Valve's recent explorations of Brain-Computer Interfaces (BCI).