In this episode of the CHART Talks Podcast, we share a panel discussion exploring the role that private patronage can play in times of uncertainty. Moderated by Astrid Wang, curator at the non-profit exhibition space MILAAP, the conversation also includes Khurram Jamil, founder of MILAAP, and the artist Nazgol Ansarinia, whose solo exhibition 'Dissolving Substances' was showing at MILAAP at the time of recording.

The discussion considers private patronage as a flexible and independent model for supporting artistic practice, in comparison with institutional frameworks that often shape contemporary exhibition-making. The conversation covers how collectors can create platforms that amplify underrepresented voices and foster dialogue between the global south and the Nordics. Through Ansarinia’s research into water infrastructures in Tehran (set against the drying of Lake Urmia) the participants consider questions of access, ownership and the tension between public and private resources. Together, they explore how private initiatives can function as sites of exchange and visibility, and how independent support structures differ from institutional models in process, responsibility and reach.