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Problematizing Deficits with Sara Vogel


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In this interview with Sara Vogel, we discuss changes in CS education since Sara was last on the podcast, the impact of COVID on learning, some of the problems with computational thinking, the importance of modifying curricula to make it more culturally and historically responsive, deficit language and racism around bilingual students, the importance of understanding translanguaging pedagogies, what apprenticeship and joint work can look like in education, and much more.

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00:00 Intro

01:08 Sara introducing herself

02:06 How the past two years has impacted Sara's approach to CS education

07:47 If Sara could wave a magic wand...

12:00 Thoughts on mandatory classes and computational thinking

17:00 Problematizing approaches to CS

22:17 How to help teachers see problems in CS education

27:11 Modifying elective curricula for mandatory classes

28:52 Defecit mindsets and bilingual education

35:07 What is translanguaging and how does it inform Sara's approach to education?

39:09 Language development and CS education

40:53 Apprenticeship in education

44:09 When wouldn't Sara use joint work?

46:09 How to learn from outside of the field

48:59 How Sara prevents burnout

53:46 How Sara iterates on her abilities

56:37 What's holding back educators and what can we do about it?

01:00:27 What Sara wishes there was more research on

01:01:17 Something Sara could use help with from a listener

01:02:34 How can we build community?

01:03:53 How to connect with Sara

01:04:24 Outro

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