Natalie's sister Liz joins us from Washington state. Liz and Cristy celebrate their birthdays (50 and 34) and embrace getting older. We talk about the Natalie's family bonds, exercise seasons in our life, and how work is good for our soul. We also chat about how God gives us laws for our good, we chat about C.S. Lewis, spiritual warfare and the power of Jesus. Discernment for reading and experiencing entertainment as a Christian. Our children's struggles in Covid, lockdowns, and asking all the questions.