In this episode Cat, David and Jeff are joined by Richard to talk about the progression that produces hope. We start by discussing that the foundation of already being justified comes from your identity, thus enables the growth in knowing exactly who we are. The discussion moves into the difference between confidence (with faith) and hope.  This leads the crew to talk about choosing the free gift(s) to enable righteousness expressed as a complete relationship with Jesus. We talk about the disciplines that help us persevere; without any feelings, in obedience, worshiping, and praising by reaching forward into thanksgiving to acquire our future hope.